The terminal diagnosis of theatre, Part 2
Remember this post? Mike Daisey responded to it here. If you’re of a mind to, go read that, then come back here.
Mr. Daisey accuses me of making a straw man argument, either by putting words in his mouth, or by drawing hyperbolic comparisons. (Hopefully, not as outrageous as this one.) Straw man arguments, though, set up false targets (hence, the straw man); the charge doesn’t stick when you’re hitting something relevant that is actually there. I’ll get to that part. But first, one of his responses I flat-out don’t get. He says:
“Actually, theater has been in retraction about 100 years in Western culture….”
I’m not sure what to make of this. One hundred years ago, here’s what was playing in New York theatres: a lot of revues and musicals (hm, not much has changed), as well as Molnar’s “The Devil.” Elsewhere in the land, it was either minstrel shows, carnival sideshows, or nothing. I would be astonished to think that Mike Daisey thinks this was the epitome of our theatre history, and can only conclude that he misspoke.
In response to my scoffing at his suggestion that the theatre would die, he writes:
“I reiterate, I’ve never expected, predicted or commented on the idea that theater will ‘die’. This is a straw man argument.”
It is technically true that he never said the theatre would die. However, the way he talks about it is in a way we would associate with being on life support — which often continues after brain death. So perhaps it depends upon one’s view of “death.” Because I’d rather be unplugged if I were in such a situation, to me flatline life support equals death. Supposing that Mr. Daisey feels otherwise and is entitled to his own opinion, I’ll cede the point. Where we do disagree is that he seems to feel that theatre is dying — not “going to die,” but dying, or ailing mightily — while I think that larger institutions are becoming increasingly irrelevant to the future of theatre, a future which lies with smaller theatres and troupes immune to the economic realities he bemoans.
One last point I’m going to take the time to redress (and excuse me for quoting at length; the bold, from his own blog, is my own words thrown back at me; the itals are his response):
“Eleven years ago at the RAT (Regional Alternative Theatre) Conference in New York City a bunch of attendees were offering dystopian views similar to Mr. Daisey’s of what was going to happen to theatre in America and what to do about it. Many of the prescriptions, like those of Mr. Daisey, were interesting and fun to talk about and utterly impracticable. Erik Ehn suggested trading bread for admission. Here’s what I know about bread: Most of it goes stale before anyone eats it. The birds in my back yard are well-fed indeed. Meanwhile, many of us who buy tickets find it more convenient to pay with a credit card than to carry around fresh home-baked bread. You see where I’m going with this.”
Look, if you honestly equate my plans for repositioning non-profit theater development efforts to use their resources to adopt wholesale the proven university model of creating lockbox endowments for “chair” positions in order to create ensemble positions for artists with a plan to pay for theater with bread……I’m speechless.
“If the main thrust of Mike Daisey’s ideas is related to audience development, then I’m with him. If it’s about finding ways to keep local artists tied to theatres, then I’m with him again — except, all over the land, they are already (just not in larger theatres).”
Well, I don’t know if I want the artists “tied” to the theaters, so much as the theaters should provide homes and workspaces for ensembles to inhabit, and frankly I don’t talk in any form about “audience development”, though I’d argue that done correctly needs to grow out of the continuity and community of letting artists back into those buildings, but I’m not sure that’s what you mean.
The model Mike Daisey is espousing is precisely one that will “tie” theatre artists to theatres at which they will reside. I’m not sure how it couldn’t be so: When you pay someone a salary, you expect them to show up for work. Even Esa-Pekka Salonen, with his starting salary of $1.09 million in 1992 at the Los Angeles Philharmonic, was expected to show up and, you know, conduct. The model Mr. Daisey envisions might work well in, say, Arkansas (and this is no dig at Arkansas, a state I have a fondness for, and one that offered me my choice of theatres in Little Rock if only I’d go down to City Hall and pick one out), but it is precisely in those smaller communities that the salaried resident artist will be expected to be performing. That responsibility will, in effect, tie the artist to the theatre. Which I think is an interesting model, and one I might try one day in retirement, in a small-town community.
With regard to bread and bird feed and their connection to Mr. Daisey’s prescriptions, we are talking about economic models. I’m sorry that he didn’t appreciate the comparison, but here it is again: Erik Ehn’s idea about baking bread and exchanging that for theatre performance was impracticable. So, for the most part, are Mr. Daisey’s ideas. His sole example is of he and his wife supporting themselves these past eight years as a mini theatre company (a feat for which I congratulate them, truly). I’m not sure that this is akin to the model he extols — if anything, it is more entrepreneurial, and speaks to his and his wife’s savvy as business-artists. In the main, I’m unsure that the existing large-scale regional non-profit theatre model has a future (just as I’m decreasingly confident that most non-profit models have a future). Commercial theatre is doing just fine, on Broadway, on the West End, and in major cities around the globe. Small theatres are immune to the proclivities of the marketplace. It is the mid-sized that is endangered, just as most middle players in most economies of all sorts are endangered.
I wish that I could see Mike Daisey’s show next month when I’m in New York, but it will have closed. I share his passion for the theatre and his hopes for its future, and I’m interested in learning more about why he thinks what he thinks (as I understand it so far). And I agree with him that management models need to change: If you remove the word “theatre” from the discussion, the root causes apply to every cultural form undergoing radical change, from music to movies to publishing and beyond. The most foolish mistake would be to try to hold onto a past that’s already gone.
May 4th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
1) With regards to the retraction of American theater, I’m simply speaking about the fact that in the ten years after the advent of moving pictures theater attendance dropped tenfold in America. I was just pointing out that retracting today is part of a much larger and longer pattern of the same for theater.
2) You say:
“It is technically true that he never said the theatre would die.”
I say: thank you.
3) I’m still not clear on the “tying”–we still have freedom of will, and the artists can leave, right? It just sounds so puntative.
4) You say:
“Erik Ehn’s idea about baking bread and exchanging that for theatre performance was impracticable. So, for the most part, are Mr. Daisey’s ideas.”
I suspect you’re not grappling with my ideas for repositioning non-profit theater development efforts to use their resources to adopt wholesale the proven university model of creating lockbox endowments for “chair” positions in order to create ensemble positions for artists. If you were, you’d compare it to something more than this silly Ehn idea. I mean, seriously…BAKING BREAD?
You say:
“His sole example is of he and his wife supporting themselves these past eight years as a mini theatre company (a feat for which I congratulate them, truly).”
Thanks for the kind words, but our peculiar ensemble isn’t even remotely part of what I’m talking about above, nor is offered as a model or panacea.
“I’m unsure that the existing large-scale regional non-profit theatre model has a future (just as I’m decreasingly confident that most non-profit models have a future). Commercial theatre is doing just fine, on Broadway, on the West End, and in major cities around the globe. Small theatres are immune to the proclivities of the marketplace. It is the mid-sized that is endangered, just as most middle players in most economies of all sorts are endangered.”
This is interesting, and I share a lot of your suspicions of the mid-sized theaters; I am attempting to engage them in communication and change before they slit their own throats.
“If you remove the word “theatre” from the discussion, the root causes apply to every cultural form undergoing radical change, from music to movies to publishing and beyond.”
Absolutely.
May 5th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
I was interested in this question of whether theater attendance is actually in decline, and whether this is some kind of ominous, irreversible trend. I didn’t find overall figures that confirm or refute that notion, but did find some anecdotally interesting facts:
In 1930, weekly MOVIE theater attendance was 80-million people, about 65% of the U.S. population. In 2000, it was only 27.3 million people, a mere 9.7% of the population. The author of this article then goes on to speculate about why we may be seeing this “steep decline” in the MOVIE theater audience. (Of the ones she mentions, the most credible to me would be the increasing prevalence of alternate forms of entertainment.)
BROADWAY THEATER attendance hit a record in 2000, topping 11.5 million people.
The audience for LIVE STAGE PLAYS increased in the United States from 20 million in 1982…to 25 million in 1992.
I don’t have time to put the above facts in true historical perspective. But it does seem that reports of the theater’s “death”…or even lingering illness…may be greatly exaggerated.
Also, one of the sources I found (NEA Report 35: American Participation in Theater) had some encouraging news — and a challenge — for people involved in live theater:
“A third of all survey respondents expressed an interest in attending stage plays more frequently than they do now, an increase of 9.4 percentage points since 1982 and the biggest increase for any of the benchmark activities. The potential audience for stage plays is composed of 10 percent current theatergoers who do not wish to increase their participation, 25 percent current theatergoers who would like to attend more often, and 65 percent nonattenders with an expressed interest in going. A relatively large untapped audience for stage plays is suggested. Creating marketing and artistic “points of entry” for nonattenders is the implied challenge.”
Anyone up for that one?
May 6th, 2008 at 7:33 am
What one comes to find out — and Isabel’s post points this out so well — is that the economics of theatre are never as bad as some would make it out to be.
Arkansas, which Lee brings up and is in fact a great place to study the true economics of theatre in flyover land, has a LORT theatre, The Arkansas Repertory Theatre. It is only 40 years old. It employs equity actors. It also offers health insurance for its staff and is not operating with a deficit (hey, better than the US government!) There is another dinner theatre in Little Rock that employs actors on a regular basis. That is not equity and is freelance work. Up in northwest Arkansas, which has grown like crazy in part because of Wal-Mart, there is very young professional company trying to take off.
In this day and age the Arkansas economy can support and sustain professional theatres. It wasn’t so 50 years ago.
May 6th, 2008 at 9:00 am
Yes, I think that with the dizzying array of media now available — television, movies , CDs, DVDs, i-pod-download-streaming-shuffling-Tivoing-virtual — ring toning-in your ear-and maybe soon implanted in your brain! – theater offers something that all the other choices do not:
live people in a room sharing an experience.
While the others battle it out for people’s attention – with each getting an ever-smaller sliver (hence the “demise” of the big TV networks), theater has a niche that none of the others fill. I believe that the proliferation of “virtual” entertainment will only serve to create a greater need and appreciation for the live experience.